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floo floors, bill and lauren. stay tuned for that. >> thanks, father. we appreciate that. >> thank you. >> thanks for staying with us this morning. >> he is on the move yet again in the city of brotherly love where they have thrown air arms wide open for pope francis. good morning, everybody, from philadelphia, the final stop for pope francis and frankly the reason he came to the united states in the first place. this is the beginning of the world meeting of families, an event that his holiness committed to a year ago and today the promise is fulfilled. they expect 500,000 today. they expect a million tomorrow for the final mass on this trip. just watching the holy father a moment ago in the back of the fiat as he was speaking to his translator to his left, an
american that you see in almost every shot that the pope has been in for the last six days plus. yet again, another day with another packed schedule, this 78-year-old pontiff is rolling right through america. with me, our religion correspondent, lauren green and peter johnson jr. to help us get through the day. it's going to be a remarkable day. good morning to both of you. >> good morning, bill. >> let's talk about what this meeting is all about, the world meeting of families. and why he said this is the linchpin for why he made the trip here in the first place, lauren. >> let's back up a little bit because pope benedict xvi made a commitment to come here. this is something john paul ii started back in the '70s. this is the eighth one. so he's living up to the commitment that benedict made. but still, the family is very,
very important to pope francis. he has said, thus jesus teaches us that the masterpiece of a society is a family, a man and woman that love each other. this is his focus and has always been his focus and which is why you didn't see a huge mass at the yankees stadium in new york. he wants to have a huge one here. >> this is the people's pope and the renewal of catholicism in america. look at the history. philadelphia for the last ten years has been mired in scandal, sex scandal, financial scandal. this pope is coming here to say that with this archbishop, they've renewed this diocese. they have shut schools to save money. they sold the mansion of the archbishop. they've cut costs. they are saying, this is a new catholic america and this pope
is here to showcase it here as the people's pope in philadelphia today. >> at the moment, on the route, he's going to see very little traffic. there's a reason for that. this city is on lockdown. it's an unfortunate state of the world that we live in today. they blocked off a five-square mile in downtown philadelphia that prevents any vehicular traffic and for a lot of the pilgrims who plan on being here, they are going to have to walk a long way. >> absolutely. one of the things that new york city has is that they are used to prominent people being in new york. they have the security machine in place. it was just like clockwork. here in philadelphia, it's a little bit different. you have things like bridges being closed and major highways being closed and it's a very different operation. i mean, personally, i had to walk five blocks to get to the hotel because they have blocked off everything to traffic. it's an amazing thing but it's also for the purpose of bringing this very, very popular pope,
the people's pope, here to philadelphia. >> and so you have swiss guard, dea, people from washington, people from the west, people from the south. all here to protect this pope and a million people that are going to be here. i walked a mile last night. so i said, this is terrific. and i met a lot of people along the way. local people here in philadelphia and a lot of the law enforcement people who delighted to be here. it's a very exciting day. >> you're being looking at saints peter and paul. it's the largest cathedral in philadelphia for a catholic population of 1.4 million. catholic faith here is very strong. that's where the mass will take place in about 30 minutes from now. still, a lot of folks were saying, why are you shutting down our city and why is this happening and we don't understand it. it all makes us very uncomfortable. the mayor nutter seaid, i can't control this.
the area has been blocked off. >> also, once it becomes a situation for the vatican, the swiss guard is involved. they know how to protect the pope. that's their job. they have the dark suits and they look just like secret service but they are the swiss guard. >> and with all due respect to the politicians and the candidates and everybody else in the world, who else but the pope could attract this kind of attention and, unfortunately, this kind of threat. isis has said in the pass that they intend to come to rome and american officials make sure today that they don't come to philadelphia. >> just a little more reflection on the local community. you guys both touched on it. pope benedict made a commitment in 2012 to bring -- >> to be here. >> -- to be here in philadelphia at the time. at the time, you have to consider what the archbishop was going through. there was a clergy sex scandal, $3 million in debt, teachers on
strike, an administrator charged with embezelling millions of dollars. and now you're almost four years removed from that and look at how strong they have been able to make the church since then. >> they have made the church stronger. an archbishop came in from denver and although he's maintained the dogma of the church, he is against abortion and spoke out against gay marriage in the past. at the same time, he's brought together diversity, especially in the leadership of this conference here in terms of families. women are leading this. they have most of the leadership positions and they have changed things here in philadelphia in terms of the catholic church big time. >> you know, you can't discount what vatican meant to pope francis. pope francis was not even a
priest when it was concluded and the previous popes, john paul and benedict, were all sort of that let's change the church. but pope francis has embraced that and the words of john 23 are ringing out with pope francis. he said, at this present time, the spouse of christ prefers to use the medicine of mercy rather than the weapons of severity and that's really what pope francis has embraced and those are the words from vatican 2. >> the sights and sounds are going to be extraordinary. we're going to pause in a moment here for some of the sounds inside the cathedral. certainly we'll follow pope benedict's travel through this. excuse me. pope francis. correction made. but they have people from all over the world here. >> canada and mexico, you would expect that. but pakistan and vietnam and
those who have made preparations to come here more than a year ago and we were talking about that this morning, bill. we were up very, very early and came to the staging to bring this broadcast. you could see people lining up already and you see what is called by some people, the first african-american mayor here, gorgeous mosaic. the faces that you see here represent the world, not only in america. so this pope will be reaching out to those american immigrants today and tomorrow as well. it's an appropriate place because the church, the basilica, the cathedral that he'll be speaking at soon and conducting a service there, was built during the civil war. and it was a target of anti-immigrant violence, potentially. and that's why they made the windows so high at this basilica, to ensure that stones could not be thrown during the
♪ >> just the beginning of what will be an incredible day here in philadelphia, an incredible two days, frankly. and later when the pope wraps up this mass, he will have a message about religious liberty and he'll touch on immigration. but his first stop will be this mass. and i don't know about you, but being catholic, you know, when you go to church, it's almost forced meditation. because you can't go anywhere. and when you watch what happened last night in madison square
gardens -- and you were there. >> yes, i was. >> taking in the sights and sounds was truly remarkable on the monitor. >> it was an emotional experience. i think it was enhanced and heightened because my own daughter had an opportunity to bring the wine during the offeratory and bring it to the pope. she walked up to the altar at madison square garden and they walked together arm-in-arm. and it was a time of contemplation and prayer. people were focused. some people were crying. people were laughing at the appropriate times. a paralyzed new york city police officer for gave his attacker more than 25 years ago. >> wow. >> in the front row. he was emotional and his son was.
thousands of people stood hours in line to be there and they were so moved by that experience. i know that the people will be moved here as well. really incredible night. >> it was remarkable to watch and thank you for sharing that. we are waiting for the pope to arrive at saints peter and paul and the mass will begin in about 30 minutes and we'll take you there live as our coverage continues. the beginning of a great day here in philadelphia continuing here on the fox news channel. ♪ i built my business with passion. but i keep it growing by making every dollar count. that's why i have the spark cash card from capital one. i earn unlimited 2% cash back on everything i buy for my studio. ♪ and that unlimited 2% cash back from spark means thousands of dollars each year going back into my business... that's huge for my bottom line. what's in your wallet?
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>> it may just be my nearsighted observation but he seems at times bored when he is not with people. and when he feels the energy of people and you can see it on his face reflecting so well. and that has been a pattern that we have watched the past week. back here in philadelphia with lauren and peter. gentlemen, back to both of you in the studio. if you think about what the world meeting of families means to the holy father, think about what he said before congress when it came to families and americans around the world. he said, i cannot hide my concern for the family from within and without and then he continued, fundamental relationships are being called
into question as is the very basis of marriage in the family. i can only reiterate the importance and, above all, the richness and the beauty of family life. monsignor, this is the reason he came to america. what do you expect today from him on that theme? >> i think unlike the other things that he had to say, the other speeches, this will be directed to the spiritual of the catholic family. i think the holy father today wants to focus on how do we bring family back together. one of the things that has traditionally kept family together is the practice of the fact and while you see great enthusiasm for the holy father out on the streets and that's wonderful, too, the reality is, the vast majority of catholics are not actively practicing their falth. i'm thinking because of the enthusiasm of this holy father's visit, maybe people will look at can i find at least one hour to come together, worship my god
and build my family in the context of faith. so i hope what he's going to do today is to help people get inspired to go back to the participation of life in the church and the parish because that's one of the major supports of family life. ♪ >> father morris, the richness and beauty of family life, what does that mean to him?
what does it mean to the catholic church? >> he talk as lot about poverty and when there is deep poverty, we see there's a correlation to a disintegration of the family. it doesn't always have to be that. there can be very poor families that have a richness to them of relationships. and i think this is where he's going after. no matter what your situation is economically, socially, if you have a strong family, if there's a mother and a father who love their children, who don't abandon their children, who don't give in to the temptations of society that say -- that say, well, you know, you'll be happy if you leave and find somebody else, you'll be happy if you just do it your way instead of god's way, well, you know what, you can find happiness and joy even in the midst of your poverty or your struggle. ♪
>> pope francis is changing his vestment and then the mass will begin in a matter of moments here. i was thinking about wednesday afternoon when he was at catholic university. man, did you see the way the seminarians and nuns were lining up and this seems to have a much more serious decorum about it. >> first cuba, washington, d.c., and then new york city, they had to build their excitement to think that he's coming to us, too. he's coming to us. this is the high point of any catholic's life, is to be able to say that i saw pope whatever. i saw pope john paul ii. i saw pope benedict. >> and you never forget it. >> and you never, ever forget it. when he was a young seminarian,
charles borromeo said pope john paul ii came to the seminary and changed him. we hear this a lot. her life story -- when she met pope leo, it said -- that confirmed to her to enter the life of a nun. that confirmed for her. so that moment -- so meeting a pope can be so transforming and we won't know the effect of it until years to come when these people 20 years from now will say, when pope francis came to my church, it changed my life. >> and roman catholics take it seriously when they say, dear holy father. he is the holy father of roman catholic believers, the billions throughout the world, the 70 million in the united states. and so there is a level of
respect for the pope really as the representative of jesus christ on this earth and he's treated with that kind of respect and that kind of -- i won't say adoration but close to adoration. as you mentioned, the people reaching out to touch his garment as he was going down some of these aisles in the church. it's a more reserved setting here today. >> whether it was madison square garden and the way it was transformed or the beautiful service at st. patrick's in new york the other night, it was really breathtaking and oftentimes when we go to church, it's 25 minutes and there's no music and this is so far from what we are all used to, watching and observing and witnessing for ourselves. >> and when they talk about high mass and pontiffical masses,
this pope has reduced that. he's brought it back a notch. he doesn't wear the red shoes of prior popes, it is not adorned in the gold. he's not sleeping in a papal palace. he's thrown aside the lincolns and mercedes for the fiat now. so it's a new church and a new time and family and regular folks are important to this church. >> the vatican communications director tell us us a fiat in italy is a cool kid's car. that's what the rich kids drive. he was like, hey, this is -- >> no slouch? >> no slouch. a four-door fiat, anybody would be happy to drive it back in rome. but everything about this service has a meaning and everything is done with intentions, whether it's the first or second reading or the gospel that comes from john today and then, of course, the
homily that will be delivered by pope francis. and we will see -- he talks so much about the poor and immigrants this week and talked about the environment and respect for life that some people suggest it should have been more a part of his message. and also respect for family and those are the five themes that especially with this last point that he will likely hit the hardest. >> it's all about the family with him. and this has been the focus and his theme really before when he was cardinal and archbishop. family has been central of his theme. the reality, though, is that people do not live in the most pristine families. there is divorce. there is the development of gay families, you know. these are the realities that people live in and yet this pope francis is really saying, come on to this church. we are going to take you where you are. we are not going to require you to jump through a hoop and say, now, if you meet this, now we'll
love you, now we'll take you in. he's saying the love of the church should be the thing that transforms you. >> and when you celebrate the family, maybe a subtle statement, when you celebrate the family, you're celebrating traditional dogma of the church. number one, protecting the unborn. number two, traditional marriage. and so it's a shorthand way in a very positive, friendly way of saying we're sticking with traditional, conservative roman catholic dogma and principles but at the same time we're expanding the tent. we want all to come in to this church and be a part of it without condemnation, without judgment, without any of those things. it's about scripture and spirituality. ♪
back here live in philadelphia, minutes away from the beginning of mass for pope francis. and it is the setting, understandably, where he seems to be drawn to almost as if the south lawn of the white house was just a little bit out of place for him and almost you could see he had a yearning to be here where he could close his eyes and say a prayer and be closest to what he knows, and that is god above. peter johnson is with me, lauren green, jonathan morris in new york. peter, that is something you've spoken about with eloquence this week. >> he's a parish priest. this is a man who was used to riding the subways and buses of buenos aires, who set up a phone, a hotline, for all of the priests while he was serving as archbishop and then the cardinal
there. >> we are going to pause just for a moment for our fox stations across the country to join our coverage. as we look inside the saints peter and paul cathedral here in downtown philadelphia, we are well into now saturday, officially day five for pope francis in the united states as this ceremony continues. we'll take a slight pause here, wait for the folks across the country to join us as we continue our coverage. ♪ this is fox news coverage of pope francis in america. good morning from philadelphia. i'm bill hemmer. it's been a big day for the pope in the city of brotherly love and in a few moments the mass
will be under way. we've been watching these amazing images. he touched down in philadelphia about 45 minutes ago after one heck of a schedule in new york city. it was an event to an event to an event and all of them capturing the vibrancy of manhattan and just the heartbeat of the world right now when he had vespers the other night at st. patrick's cathedral and then down to ground zero, up to harlem and through central park and then ending at madison square garden last night. now we see pope francis make his way down this center aisle. we me is lauren green, peter johnson, jonathan morris and monsignor in new york as well. today it's about families. back to monsignor, how is it
that pope francis wants to frame this argument and this urgency about what he believes and talked about with great eloquence about the destruction of the american family and the family in general anywhere in the world today? how does he -- how does he put that into words now, do you believe? >> you know, bill, i think the most important thing is to admit that there's a problem and i think he's going to talk about very real problems that american families face. when i go around to family life conferences around america, i say, who here comes from a perfect family and when someone raises their hand, i say, you need to join me for co think th message will be, your family is not okay and my family is not okay and that is okay and the love of jesus christ can heal even the broken mess that a family life can be. admit the problem. second, admit that jesus christ is the solution to the problem
and go to church because you'll find great healing there. again, in america where most people are not attending church, i hope that he's going to turn us on to the beauty of catholicism again. there is a great book out there called "rediscovering catholicism." you have a richness right down the block from you at your local church and parish. explore those riches from the best sense. ♪ ♪ ♪
>> it's a symbol of our prayer up to heaven and taking us back to the idea of sacrifice and it's clear in the new testament that god is not looking for sacrifice from us but rather a contrite heart. so there's a contrast that there's a sacrifice that's already been done for us and that's by jesus christ on the cross and now we have to connect with that and our prayers are going up into heaven, just like the incense and that he would strengthen our resolve and, of course, the strength in the
the man replied, the woman who you put here with me, she gave me fruit from the tree and so i ate it. the lord god then asked the woman, why did you do such a thing? the woman answered, the serpent tricked me into it and so i ate it. then the lord god said to the serpent, because you have done this, you shall be banned from all of the animals and from all of the wild creatures. on your belly shall you crawl and dirt shall you eat all the days of your life. i would pull emnity between you and the woman and between your offspring and hers. he will strike at your head while you strike at his heel. the man called his wife eve.
a story not about building walls but about breaking them down. it is a story about generation after generation of committed catholics going out to the peripheries and building communities of worship, education, charity and service to the larger society. this morning i learned something about the history of this beautiful cathedral, the story behind its high walls and windows. i would like to think, though, that the history of the church in this city and state is really
a story not about building walls but about breaking them down. it is a story about generation after generation of committed catholics going out to the peripheries and building communities of worship, education, charity and service to the larger society. [ speaking foreign language ] >> translator: that story is seen in the many shrines which dot the city and the many parrish churches whose towers and steeples speak of god's presence in the midst of our communities. it is seen in the efforts of all those dedicated priests, religious and laeity, who over two centuries have ministered to the spiritual needs of the poor.
the immigrant, the sick and those in prison. and it is seen in the hundreds of schools where religious brothers and sisters train children to read and write, to love god and neighbor, and to contribute as good citizens to the life of american society. all of this is a great legacy which you have received and which you have been called to enrich and pass on. >> translator: that story is seen in the many shrines which dot this city, and the many parrish churches whose towers
and steeples speak of god's presence in the midst of our communities. it is seen in the efforts of all those dedicated priests, religious and laeity, who, for over two centuries, have ministered to the spiritual needs of the poor, the immigrant, the sick and those in prison. and it is seen in the hundreds of schools where religious brothers and sisters train children to read and write, to love god and neighbor, and to contribute as good citizens to the life of american society. all of this is a great legacy which you have received and which you have been called to enrich and pass on. >> translator: know the story of st. catherine drexel, one of the great saints raised up by this
local church. when she spoke to pope leo xiii of the needs of the missions, the pope, he was a very wise pope, asked her pointedly, "what about you? what are you going to do?" those words changed catherine's life because they reminded her that in the end, every christian man and woman, by virtue of baptism, has received a mission. each one of us has to respond as best we can to the lord's call to build up his body: the
church. >> translator: most of you know the story of st. catherine drexel, one of the great things raised up by this local church. when she spoke to pope leer xiii of her missions, the pope, he was a very wise pope, asked her pointedly, "what about you? what are you going to do?" those words changed catherine's life, because they reminded her that every man and woman, because of baptism, has received a mission. each one of us must respond as best we can to the lord's call to build up his body: the church. >> translator: what about you? i would like to dwell on two aspects of these words in the context of our particular
mission to transmit the joy of the gospel and to build up the church, whether as priests, deacons, members, men and women of institutes of consecrated life. >> translator: what about you? i would like to dwell on these two aspects of the context of our particular mission to transmit the joy of the gospel and to build up the church, whether as priests, deacons, or men and women members of institutes of consecrated life. >> translator: first, those words, "what about you" were addressed to a young person, a
young woman with high ideals, and they changed her life. they made her think of the immense work that had to be done, and to realize that she was being called to do her part. how many young people in our parrishes and schools have the same high ideals, generosity of spirit and love for christ and the church? i ask you, do we challenge them? do we make space for them and help them to do their part? do we find ways of sharing their enthusiasm and gifts with our communities above all in works
of mercy and concern for others? do we share our own joy and enthusiasm in serving the lord? >> translator: first, those words, "what about you" were addressed to a young person, a young woman with high ideals and they changed her life. they made her think of the immense work that had to be done and to realize that she was being called to do her part. how many young people in our parrishes and schools have the same high ideals, generosity of spirit and love for christ and the church? i asked them, do we challenge them? do we make space for them and help them to do their part? to find ways of sharing their enthusiasm and gifts with our communities, above all in works
of mercy and concern for others? do we share our own joy and enthusiasm in serving the lord? >> translator: one of the great challenges facing the church in this generation is to foster in all the faithful a sense of personal responsibility for the church's mission and to enable them to fulfill that responsibility as missionary disciples as 11 of the gospel in our world. this will require creativity in adapting to changed situations, carrying forward the legacy of the past.
not primarily by maintaining our structures and institutions which have served us well, but above all, by being open to the possibilities which the spirit opens up to us and communicating the joy of the gospel daily and in every season of our life. >> translator: one of the great challenges facing the church in this generation is to foster in all the faithful a sense of personal responsibility for the church's mission and to enable them to fulfill that responsibility as missionary disciples, as 11 of the gospel in our world. this will require creativity in adapting to changed situations, carrying forth the legacy of the past, not primarily by maintaining our structures and institutions which have served
us well, but above all, by being open to the possibilities which the spirit opens to us and communicating the joy of the gospel daily and in every season of our life. >> translator: what about you? it is significant that those words of the elderly pope were also addressed to a laywoman. we know that the future of the church in a rapidly changing society will call, and even now calls for a much more active engagement on the part of the laeity. the church in the united states has always devoted immense effort to the work of catecases
and education. our challenge today is to build on those solid foundations and to foster a sense of collaboration and shared responsibility in planning for the future of our parrishes and institutions. this does not mean relinquishing the spiritual authority with which we have been entrusted. rather, it means discerning and employing wisely the manifold gifts which the spirit pours out upon the church. in a particular way, it means valuing the immense contribution which women, lay and religious, have made and continue to make
to the life of our communities. >> translator: what about you? it is significant that these words of the elderly pope were also addressed to a laywoman. we know that the future of the church in a rapidly changing society will call, and even now calls, for a much more active engagement on the part of the laeity. the church in the united states has always devoted immense effort to the work of cateceses and education. our challenge today is to build on those solid foundations and to foster a sense of collaboration and shared responsibility in planning for the future of our parrishes and institutions. this does not mean relinquishing the spirit of authority with
which we have been entrusted. rather, it means serving and employing wisely the manifold gifts which the spirit pours out upon the church. in a particular way, it means valuing the immense contribution which women, lay and religious, have made and continue to make to the life of our communities. >> translator: dear brothers and sisters, i thank you for the way in which each of you has answered jesus' question and which inspired your own vocation. what about you? i encourage you to be renewed in the joy of that first encounter with jesus and to draw from that joy renewed fidelity and
strength. i look forward to being with you in these days, and i ask you to bring my affectionate greetings to those who could not be with us, especially the many elderly priests and religious who join us in spirit. >> translator: dear brothers and sisters, i thank you for the way in which each of you has answered jesus' question, which inspired your own vocation, what about you? i encourage you to be renewed in the joy of that first encounter with jesus and to draw from that joy renewed fidelity and strength. i look forward to being with you in these days, and i ask you to bring my affectionate greetings to those who could not be with us, especially the many elderly
priests and religious who join us in spirit. >> translator: during these days of the world meeting of families, i would ask you in a particular way to reflect on our ministry to families, to couples preparing for marriage, and to our young people. i know how much is being done in your local churches to respond to the needs of families and to support them in their journey of faith. i ask you to pray fervently for them and to pray for the deliberations of the forthcoming syned on the family.
>> translator: during these days of the world meeting of families, i would ask you in a particular way to reflect on ous preparing for marriage, and to our young people. i know how much is being done in your local churches to respond to the needs of families and to support them in their journey of faith. i ask you to pray fervently for them and for the deliberations of the forthcoming syned on the family. >> translator: now, with gratitude for all we have received and with confident assurance in all our needs, let us turn to mary, our blessed mother. with a mother's love, may she intercede for the growth of the church in america in prophetic witness to the power of her
son's cross to bring joy, hope, and strength into our world. i pray for each of you, and i ask you, please, to pray for me. >> translator: now, with gratitude for all we have received and with confident assurance in all our needs, let us turn to mary, our blessed mother. with a mother's love, may she intercede for the growth of the church in america in prophetic witness to the power of her son's cross to bring joy, hope and strength into our world. i pray for each of you, and i ask you, please, to pray for me. [ applause ]
>> your holiness, brother cardinals, brother bishops, priests and deacons, fellow religious and friends in jesus christ. philadelphia has waited a long time for this moment, and by philadelphia, i mean not just catholics, but christians from every tradition, a vibrant jewish community, our mayor, governor and business leaders who have given us wonderful support and people of good will from every walk of life. this is a city that would change its name to francisville today. [ applause ]
>> we would do that if we could do it without inconveniencing the rest of north america. so we welcome you with all our hearts and a huge amount of enthusiasm and joy you're holding us. this cathedral of st. peter and paul is the home of a church in philadelphia, the church that produced two of my country's greatest saints, saint katharine drexel and st. newman. philadelphia gave birth to the first pair of parrish schools in the united states and service in catholic education. the priests, deacons, men and women of religious and lay faithful here at the church in philadelphia continue that great work with the witness of their lives. holy father, thank you for celebrating the eucharist with us. thank you for showing us your support for families, for marriage, for immigrants, for
the young and the poor. most of all, thank you for living the gospel of jesus christ with the spirit of such joy that has reached into every heart in this cathedral. may god grant all of us today and all the many thousands of people who will greet you this weekend a share in that same joy, now and always. holy father, welcome to philadelphia. [ applause ]
♪ [ applause ] >> from the cathedral paints peter and paul in philadelphia, for the past 90 minutes we've been watching a beautiful mass celebrated by pope francis and his strong message in a homily about an appeal to women and the lady in the catholic church of america as he greets as he did at the airport. a young man with his family in a
wheelchair. we saw a touching image at the airport earlier today in philadelphia. a 10-year-old boy with cerebral palsy was touched by the pont f pontiff. he said it amends the constitution in which women, lay and religious, have made and continue to make in the life of our communities. with regard directly to laeity, we know that the future of a church in a rapidly changing society will call and even now calls for a much more active engagement on the part of the about laeity. which is an ongoing debate within the church about how far you go, and today the pope has staked his position loud and clear here at the beginning of the world meeting of families.
♪ >> stunning sounds from inside the cathedral, the largest in philadelphia, 1.4 million catholics. if you thought new york was fired up and washington before then, this city has been waiting for this day today. later today we'll see the holy father at independence hall which really goes to the heart of our nation with the declaration of independence when he delivers a message about religious freedom in america and
in the world today. we will see him then as well. please stay tuned to the fox channel, news fox station, for continued coverage throughout the day on this story. until then i'm bill hemmer live today in philadelphia. and our coverage continues now here on the fox newschannel. with me religion correspondent lauren green and peter johnson jr. back in new york, father morse and monsignor jim lasante. we will touch in a moment with all of you on the issue of women and the laeity and also families in america within the catholic church as the pope has framed it today. first let's listen to the beautiful and melodious sounds
from his message about families, about women in the laeity. father morris, let's begin with you. >> i think lauren green called it just before the mass, making mention of katharine drexel, one of the philadelphia saints, one of the great american saints that we have. of course, a saint is somebody we believe is part of the heavenly family of god but also is someone to be imitated. he used her life as an example for the church in philadelphia and around the world, and he said that katharine drexel responded to the question that pope xiii asked what are you going to do about st. john's call? and she went on to become a great model for philadelphians and americans for life as a saint. but then pope francis took it to another level. he said it's interesting pope
john xiii asked this question of a woman, a young woman. so he said, so the role of women and the role of women in general needs to be discerned properly, needs to be examined properly to make sure that there is a much more active -- these were his words -- much more active participation in the life of the church. i thought it was very interesting. it's a whole other theme that was not touched on in washington, d.c. or new york, and i think it's just a preparation of more to come. >> wow. monsignor, how did you hear this message and did you expect this message? >> i d biid, bill. you know, the truth is, in my parrish and probably father john's as well, the pope couldn't volunteer for those who are there for us. the women are central to the life of the church and this holy father is recognizing there are so many women out there who are catholic who feel sometimes
patronized by the church, and he's saying let's give women the respect and dignity they deserve. he also said how vitally important it is to get young people involved. the average age going to mass is 72. the average family community in my neighborhood is 32. it was an invitation to all parri parrishes to try to bring young families back to the church. and one more thought in terms of what the pope said, church means nothing unless there is a personal encounter with christ. when the holy father is quoting that line, he says, what about you? he tells everyone listening that unless you embrace the faith and you take on the message of jesus christ, it won't mean the same, but what is pope francis about except for what would jesus do?
i hope everyone says, what would jesus do and what would he expect of me? >> thank you, monsignor. what about you? peter johnson jr. with me now. there was a moment there, as we see the fiat roll away -- is this from earlier? this was from earlier before pope francis entered the basilica. we believe now he's en route to a seminary where he'll meet with about 150 seminarians and then later this afternoon we'll see him at independence hall and that will be a significant message as well. there was one line, peter, you and i were talking about during the service that stuck out with you as it pertains to women in the laeity. that does not mean breaking the spirit of authority in which we have been entrusted. his words. what does that mean. >> in other words, he has challenged women to be a greater part of the church in the tradition of the great american
syned. at the same time he says canon law says the spirit of authority belongs to the bishops, including the ultimate bishop, the pope, the holy father. at one point he's saying let's get everyone involved, lay and religious, especially women who are the bulkark of our church. at the same time, do not expect any change in canon law. a subtle but significant step to say to people in terms of women as priests, not quite yet. not quite yet. we're standing pat. >> we are going to see 500,000 people here later. that's the estimate. we could see a million people here tomorrow. lauren, this is the world meeting of families that was initiated by pope john paul ii in the early 1990s, 1992. it happens about every three years. and they have been working here in philadelphia, and this will
be later tonight at this festival, the conclusion for what that work is all about. >> absolutely. >> what have they been doing, lauren? >> what we're seeing right now here is the festival at the end of a conference. every conference has one of those, but they've been working throughout the week talking about the sacred bonds of family. that's really what this conference is all about. so they have the big meetings but then they have the breakout sessions talking about the real issues facing the family. it's about family relationships, interfaith marriage, divorce, dating, intercourse, reproduction and fertility. one of the breakout sessions, marriage, is it really what we say it is or is it what god says it is? these are the differences between what the secular culture decides what marriage is and what the catholic marriage has in mind for it. so they're trying to bring young people in to the church, so they have to address things young people are facing. >> families of the future aare
the future and the past of the church. i went to boy scouts in the parrish whole. i used to speak at bible studies on friday night. we did my daughter's communion and baptism parties in the school hall, the same school hall that my father acted in plays in the 1930s. it's about tradition and it's about bringing people together really in a communion of saints. that's what it's about. >> this is an aerial picture now, just to give you -- well, we just got off of it but we'll get it back in a moment here. it's benjamin franklin parkway. thank you, guys. at the top of the screen is the art gallery, which is just a beautiful stretch of property here in philadelphia. this strip was modelled after the shon zalais in paris. you probably remember this from
the steps of "rocky i." that overhang is where the pope will be later tonight. aretha franklin will sing -- >> the great comedian, greg gatsby. >> a great phenomenona, they've shut this city down. they've blocked off five square miles. peter, you got in late last night, you walked a mile to get to your hotel. for the pilgrims who have come here from vietnam, canada, the united states, all over the world, a lot of them could be in store for a pretty long walk if they want to get their moment with the pope. >> and it was excitement when the pope arrived in philadelphia today. you mentioned the steps upon which sly stallone ran up and down i rocky. they played "rocky" as he arrived at the airport today. so there's that feeling, speaking to the police officers here, speaking to some of the food workers, speaking to the people who are manning the
barricades, there is an excitement in philadelphia that they haven't had in a long, long time. there are some people who are upset with the catholic church based on what's going on. their hope is to reel those folks back in and a direct invitation and challenge by this pope to the women of philadelphia and the women of america to come back to the church, using the example of st. katharine drexel. >> that was the arrival two and a half hours ago we were just watching there. >> you mentioned something interest before the mass began, that everything in this mass means something. peter brought this out looking at the mass as it pertains to women. one of the most important was the first reading in the first mass that pope francis does in philadelphia for the world meeting of families is from genesis, that story of adam and eve. it mooifight have been missed, it's a very important story of adam and eve because it's about their argument. it's about the first time they find strife and separate from
god. a very wise professor said whether you believe the stories actually happened is not the point, it's the wisdom of what always happens between man and wife or couples if god is not the center of their life. and i really do believe that that is why that verse is chosen. >> yeah. father morris back in new york. the monsignor touched upon this. what about you, those three words. perhaps that's the headline at the conclusion of this on sunday night. what about you? he was turning that question toward those within the church and those perhaps not in the church now, and those who will never even entertain the possibility of being a catholic. but the phrase "what about you," when you heard it, what did that mean? >> that's it. that's it, bill. as he left new york and left such a deep impression on people, as well as d.c., to go and make a difference in the
world, he's now said that very directly in philadelphia. he was saying that specifically to laypeople. in other words, not to clerics. and i think that's very interesting because of what the city of philadelphia has been in terms of the ecclestiacal culture. there was certainly a large problem with the sex abuse and the cover-up that happened, but also because of the vibrancy of the church in philadelphia, the church didn't have to depend much on laypeople, because there were at one time so many priests, because there were so many institutions, educational institutions, founded by the church. that has all changed right now. and archbishop shapu, the leader of the archdiocese of philadelphia, has been saying this over and over again, and now pope francis says it. these are different days, church of philadelphia, now we need involvement of laypeople like never before. it doesn't mean that, therefore, the priest no longer has roles,
the sisters no longer have roles, but the laypeople have a very particular mission, and now it is needed like never before. >> these are the 150 seminarians that are gathered down the road here where pope francis is headed next, and we were hoping to get just a little bit of the -- to get a little bit of their choir moment here. there we go. perfect timing now. ♪
>> never gets old. we've had five days of that now as we move toward saturday afternoon here in philadelphia. just reflect for a moment on the message as he laid it out in this homily and how he juxtaposes that with his message on religious liberty this afternoon at independent hall, rightfully chosen. >> i think it's a transition, but it's seamless. he's bringing an affirmative message to the united states that this is an open church, that there is open borders in this church. by the same token, he's going to be talking about open borders in nations around the world and also the notion that people should be able to exercise the religion that they want to exercise in the way they want to do it, and that there shouldn't be constraints with regard to
that. i think he'll point to the middle east but i think he'll also make parallels to what's going on here. we know what happened with the little sisters of the poor. in fact, he visited them ensuing with regard to kcontraception, ensuing the obama administration. this is a pope not afraid to take on any leadership in any country, but it's an inherently and innately positive, positive message. he wants inclusion in every way, whether it's in the church or any aspect of society based on people's natural and human rights. >> so i would not call him the pugilist -- >> he's a tough guy, bill. >> perhaps he led with the left when he entered this country, and he's leading with the right leaving. >> i think you're right. but he does it with velvet gloves and he does it with a silver tongue, and he does it in
a way that doesn't threaten anyone at all. it's a powerful message today. it's also a powerful message to the bureaucrats and the naysayers back in rome at the vatican, some of them who don't want him to succeed. so he is taking world opinion, an american opinion, and saying, i have the people with me. the parrishes are with me. you will change because our people, our billion faithful need change. >> he'll arrive in a moment here, so let's just get a quick timeout here as we go to break. we'll continue to listen to the seminary singing and we'll see the pope pull up in the fiat in a matter of moments. ♪ the sudden loss of pasture became a serious problem for a family business. faced with horses that needed feeding and a texas drought that sent hay prices soaring, the owners had to act fast.
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philadelphia, our coverage continues this saturday afternoon, the pope arriving in philadelphia about three hours ago after a whirlwind schedule in new york city. wow. it was nonstop. left us all tired. it was still going as he does today. this is in a seminary in marin county just outside philadelphia and we expect him to arrive any moment. the reason he's in philadelphia is because of the world meeting of families, and that was something that was established some 20-some years ago. this was the lynchpin for his entire trip here. and washington was added, and new york was added, and cuba was added along the way. but this is the purpose. >> exactly. he has talked about the mission of the family, not just that it's great to have families, but there is a mission to the family, saying that, you know, there is no vacation from vocation. your family is a vocation in expressing the gospel, because he feels that if you're going to
raise a family, this is the foundation of the world. the families where the children learn their ethics, they learn their right from wrong, they learn how to operate in the world, they learn how to give. they learn everything from the family and so we are tying this in to the idea of religious liberty. if i tell my children that this is wrong and this is right and a secular culture tells them no, that's wrong and that's right, that's a clash right there. so he is going to have to speak to the issue of religious liberty as it pertains to the family and what you teach the family. >> this whole trip is about purification, it's about cleansing, it's about purging the church of the sins of the past. and he says he has a short time as pope. we were talking about. would he resign at some point, and he made it clear that in fact he would if he couldn't carry out the office of the
pope. so he is going forward in a way that's recognizing a short lifetime but a lot to do, and what he's done here in just a few days, whether it's at the congress, whether it's in cuba, whether it's st. patrick's with cardinal dolan who henergizing catholics in new york city, he's saying i'm playing for keeps and i want to change things right away because the catholic church doesn't have time to let it wait. >> he'll be 79 in december. he seems full of life, if you ask me. >> he's got more energy than i have some days. he's incredible. >> fe >> the fiat may be coming into view, and if it is, my apologies to brian yennes. he is across town at city hall.
this is the deck clarlaration o independence, and the message about liberty. what can you share now? >> that's exactly right, bill. independence hall where pope francis is speaking really to a crowd of 40,000 people that have already been here, many since 6:00 a.m. this morning. what we can expect today is for him to speak directly to mainly a very large hispanic audience that's gathered here today. we have seen flags from the dominican republic, arjgentinar american flags here. it seems like they've come from all across the americas to listen to their pope, the first latin american pope, as he speaks about immigration here today. really, everything is about symbolism, as you guys have been saying, and today we can expect a very symbolic motions to happen here at independence hall. one, he will be speaking using the lectern that abraham lincoln
used while he gave the gettysburg address. the gettysburg address in which abraham lincoln said all men are created equal, that the government created for the people and by the people shall never perish and that is the lectern he will be speaking of today regarding liberty and the freedom and immigration. also we will be hearing from many immigrants, mexican-american families that are here, and also hearing he will be blessing the cross of the inquestros. that is really a symbolism, truly, of the hispanic missionary mission here in america. it's supposed to symbolize the hispanic faith movement within the united states, and he will be blessing that. so here at independence hall, he will be addressing, i think, and it's pretty safe to say, look, 40% of catholics in the united states are hispanic.
we are -- you know, hispanics are 500 million of the 1.3 billion catholics in this country. he lk speaking in their language. he will be speaking to them about immigration. we have heard him speak about immigration before, bill, but this will be the first time in which he will be having a conversation, really, truly, to the people which it affects the most. we've heard him talk about how he's an immigrant and how this is a country made by immigrants. we've heard him address congress and talk about the golden rule and how important it is that we treat these people as faces and human beings and not numbers, but now he will do that. he will address them as people, and here at independence hall at 4:00. so this should be something that many that i've spoken to in spanish and english are excited about, bill. >> thank you, brian. [ applause ]
>> father jonathan morris, tell us the significance of a stop like this. seminarians, you were one of them at one point, who are bound for the priesthood. >> the impression that pope francis just made on these guys driving up in a little fiat, i think, can't be highlighted enough. he has talked over and over again about what it means to be
a priest, and is this about careerism? is this about power? or is this about a vocation to ser serve? and he's saying to them, not just to them, of course, but to me, to others, every layperson, religious alike, what is the christian life about? if it's all about you, if it's about the color of your vestment, getting this or that parrish, having this title in front of or behind your name, then you've got it wrong. the moment i got moved personally emotionally most in d.c. was watching the little fiat drive up. i thought, i'm proud of my church. this is a very, very simple thing but will have a tremendous impact on these young men that he's coming to speak to. one last thing, bill, is that sometimes when he speaks to seminarians, he puts down the notes and just speaks to them as
♪ happy birthday to you [ applause ] [ cheers and applause ] >> i can't confirm a lot from that song, but i can tell you it's not the pope's birthday. because he turns 79 on december 17th. he's got a couple months to go before he blows out those candles. >> they're either incredibly early or very late in wishing a happy birthday. >> father morris, you were so eloquent in explaining to us and
our audience about what a visit like this means. tell us why the pope would choose this location, and one would think it's a natural fit, certainly, and perhaps it's a no-brainer on a trip like this. but is it? >> it's not. let me start by saying i believe that happy birthday was instigated by pope francis in honor of archbishop shapu, who i believe his birthday is today. it's interesting that he surprised him with a happy birthday. it's a down-home, natural thing to do, and if anything, there is a revolution here by pope francis of normalcy, of evolution saying we care about people, not just protocol. that's the message he's giving
here to these seminarians. if you want to be a priest, learn to serve. if you want to be a leader, be normal and be radical in your love. and you can't do that by standing up on top of people looking down and telling them what to do, but rather, by explaining to them why this or that is the right thing to do, and why this is best for you, for your soul. and i think that's the type of leadership that he wants from these guys, and that's why he's going there. he's saying, you are my hands and feet. you are my heart. you are my boots on the ground. but when you get those boots on the ground, they better be focused on love and on service, not about self-promotion, careerism or clericalism.
♪ [ applause ] >> so the archbishop is 71. we can confirm that also. we were reflecting earlier about when pope benedict made the decision to have philadelphia as the host city for this world family meeting, and it's been held all over the world. pope john ii, pope benedict attended as well, and now pope francis had his opportunity and he said he'll fulfill that commitment as he said about a year ago. there was a time when the archdiocese in philadelphia was on its knees and was facing an
uphill climb. people like the archbishop here celebrating his birthday has a lot to celebrate with this moment. >> he absolutely does. he's had a dramatic effect on this diocese as other cardinals and bishops have had in the last few years in the united states. so it's a testament to what they're doing, but also going to the seminarians, he's doing what he did when he became pope. he moved into the guest house rather than the local palace. to say i'm one with you, i understand it, i've done it, i've been there and i value what you do, there's no greater leadership lesson in any industry, business or religion for the pope to be doing what he's doing here in philadelphia. on top of that, macy's has given about a quarter million dollars in linens and chairs, and i understand the sheets were kind of old and the china was kind of old, and they said we're doing something special for the pope.
they're all sleeping on new mattresses tonight. >> he needs to come back more often. >> it also might be for a practical reason. the vatican's ambassador to the united states, that's where he lives, and in new york you have the papal holy seas mission to the united nations. those are the two vatican ambassadors in the united states, and that's the likelihood of where he would stay. in a place like philadelphia, where would you stay except in a seminary? >> i believe the archbishop shapu sold the mansion, so there is no more mansion to stay in. they're going on budget. >> we expect 500,000 people here today in philadelphia. tomorrow for the mass, it could be 1 million. they've been waiting for their moment, now philadelphia has it. we'll see them live in independence hall in a few hours, but for now let's get a quick break here. as the world leader for
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ceremony. the mass inside the basilica of saints peter and paul. now we continue to look around some of the events throughout the area in philadelphia. part of the message was about the family. what this whole two-day event is here in philadelphia. the importance of women in the church, of laity. he really stressed that today in his homily. i want to bring in steven wright with the catholic study public policies center. he's live in washington, d.c. good day to you. i know you've been watching and listening from our nation's capital. what do you take away from this pope who many describe as a pastor on a mission and now he's delivered that, that mission thus far. >> i think it's interesting to go back to his homily which focused on the role of women in the church. the greatest example of christian discipleship is not a pope, it's not a bishop, it's a woman, mary, the mother of god.
i think the pope through this visit, the focus on the family, is showing his role is a little different. it's a hundrmble role. he's peter, a successor of peter. his job is to be a symbol, an embodiment of unity in the church. he brings everyone together. he's the builder of bridge, as he mentioned to congress. that's not an accidental metaphor. pontifex means bridge builder. to encourage us, as we heard him say earl 50ier, to go out and do the work. he can't do everything. he's here to bring us together. and then encourage us to do the work we're called to do through our baptism as catholics. >> steven, thank you. steven white, catholic studies program, washington, d.c.
and lull and how you marry the two perhaps. how have you scene that play out? >> when you marry those two, it's going to create national attention. if you have just law as a way to change people, it will never change them because they're far too judgmental. if you have love and accept anybody else, that will not change the the two either. you have to bring these two together as one. that naturally creates tension. he's willing to put the church in that position to create that tension to bring everybody together. and bring grace back to the church. >> the intersection of politics and morals we talked about all the way. peter? >> -- does it every day, knows it better than anybody. this afternoon, we're going to hear from this pope on religious liberty and immigration at the famous gettysburg address lincoln lectern. he'll be spiritual, talking about church context, but at the same time, i believe it will ignite a political debate we
haven't seen in this country yet during his trip. so there will be something for everyone to chew on and discuss. i think it will be a significant, significant address. especially given his place there with the declaration of independence and the constitution. and a person who believes in liberties of all kinds for all people. >> enormous symbolism here. when you get to the politics and the time we have left here, i mentioned this earlier, did he lead with the left and is he leaving with the right? >> left ideologically and ending on the right. i think there's something for everyone to think about and to ruminate on and to discern, as he says, to discern. that's what we're left with. let's be discerning about what we hear. >> a very jesuit thing to do too. >> thank you, lauren, thank you, peter. will be back a bit later here today from philadelphia when we take you down to independence hall. that will be quite a moment.
500,000 today. 1 million tomorrow. i mean, you could almost say the trip's just getting started. but they're winding things down as he arrives in philadelphia today. we go live to washington now. we'll see you at 4:00 this afternoon live here in philly. >> the day after speaker john boehner stuns washington with his resignation, the race is on to replace him. we'll talk to the co-founder of the tea party to find out who he's backing. the pope in philadelphia. the star-studded festival just hours away. we'll go live to the city of brotherly love. ♪ all the comrades that err they have ♪ >> and a touching and